It’s been a while since I did an interview edition of the podcast and I’m so happy about this one. It’s a conversation with Sarah and Isabell Bowling about their new book, The Road to Wholeness: Healing from Trauma. It’s a potentially heavy subject, but we keep things light and positive yet redemptive.

Give it a listen when you’re on the treadmill or doing your commute thing. The New and Better Podcast is available on all the major podcast platforms. The podcasts home page is here.